Seen and Unseen

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The recent debate here on QTC about demons and the demonic reminded me – in a serendipitous way – that we believe in a God who is maker of all, seen and unseen (visibilium omnium et invisibilium). That’s what we say in the Nicene Creed, and it’s fine by me if by invisible we’re referring to spiritual beings, angels and demons. What I object to is the move by certain sections of society, foremost among them the Catholic Church’s hierarchy, to consign LGBT folk to the category of the invisible. Let’s take Cardinal George’s recent comments about likening pride parades to the KKK marches. His remarks raised hell. And rightly so. I am aware of the fact that there are persons who think that the reaction by gay activists was exaggerated (AD’s contribution here in QTC reflects this position). What AD and others may fail to realise is that Cardinal George’s comment is no wild shot. I am glad that George has now retracted the remarks he made, and has gone some way toward recognising the existence of gay persons (he’s even admitted to possibly having family members who are gay – and yes he used that anathema word “gay”), but there’s still a long way to go. As a gay priest still in the active ministry I know all too well how crippling this policy of “not seeing” is. It works out in various ways. For example, how often have members of the Church hierarchy chosen to engage in a dialogue with gays and lesbians? More often than not, Church authorities talk about “them” (i.e. us), while refusing to listen to them/us. It’s as if, you know, we have nothing to say about something that directly affects us, and that is part and parcel of our life. Terry has quite recently written about his experience – and that of other prominent members in the Catholic gay caucus – when a conference about gay marriage was held in the UK. Gays, even those in civil unions and thus having a direct interest in the discussion, were barred from attending. Silence, non-engagement, not-seeing. Am I the only one who feels slighted by this attitude?

In part, this stance by the Church hierarchy is based on its unwillingness to recognise sexual orientation as a ground for identity and therefore non-discrimination (with other grounds such as sex, race, and religion). In every forum where issues of human rights are raised, and attempts are made to include sexual orientation as a ground for non-discrimination, you can bet your bottom dollar that someone wearing the white, red or purple hat is going to pounce on that proposition and prevent it from becoming part of the law. Clearly, they cannot stomach seeing gay rights being recognised as human rights. One doesn’t need to be a rocket scientist to realise that sexual orientation is essential to identity, whether that orientation is hetero or homo. Relationships are essential to human flourishing, and foremost among these relationships are those based on erotic-affective attraction; two persons bond and become a couple. Just as straight couples express their love for each other in a myriad ways, and this love is transformed into a life plan, so also with gay couples – given the opportunity. Offended by semi-naked twinks strutting their stuff in a pride parade? Gays have been bashed and harassed for more mundane things: a gay couple simply holding hands, or sneaking a kiss in a public space seems to offend some persons too.

Which brings me to another thorny issue raised by AD in connection with the Chicago Pride Parade debacle: the offensiveness or otherwise of such parades. Have pride parades degenerated into freak-shows or a glorification of hedonism? While agreeing to some extent with AD’s point of view that some elements of the pride parade are too “in your face”, too offensive, and possibly warping the reality which is the LGBT community, I think we shouldn’t stop there. Admittedly, I’m definitely not partial to gym bunnies, and you won’t see me parading with just a fig leaf any time soon. But isn’t there more to these parades? Haven’t they become more mainstream, with more groups participating? In a number of cases the military and other organised corps are also represented. Obviously I’m not thinking about Folsom Street Fair here; I think that’s a case sui generis. What I am reflecting upon is the growing awareness that has been generated through such parades worldwide.

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If in some western countries pride marches have lost their political edge – becoming more carnivalesque in the process – the same cannot be said elsewhere. Just look at the problems that arise whenever a pride march is organised in one of the countries in Eastern Europe (bearing in mind that a good number of these countries are now EU members). And we’ve barely scratched the surface if we were to include the Asian and African continents (bar South Africa), to say nothing of the Arab world.

If the media choose to focus on the wilder, weirder elements in pride marches around the world, then it’s up to them. That’s their job; they have a story to sell. But if persons like Cardinal George choose to be offended by what goes on in a pride parade, they can always look the other way. That’s what they’re doing the rest of the year, in any case, even when confronted with LGBT folk who aren’t doing their damnedest to look different. How many gay and lesbian couples with children have they met? How many openly gay, lesbian or trans people do they come in daily contact with? Homophobes will bring up any excuse to justify their behaviour, so there’s no point trying to play by their rules. It’s worth remembering, in conclusion, that the events that the first pride parades celebrated were none other than the Stonewall riots of June 1969. The gay patrons of the Stonewall bar – from the drag queens to the most straight-looking – decided that the only way out of this prison of silence, invisibility and shame was to stand up to those who harassed them. Their gains are my gains too.

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  • Mario

    You have incredible passion!  Thank you!  I believe we all have a valuable part to play and something to teach each other even if for the moment we happened to be in pink speedos, or dressed in our drag best.  There is a great gift in diversity, especially including the diversity that challenges us!  Go, Fr. Bart, Go! 

    • Bart

      Incredible passion? Anger, more likely. Especially at the attempts by some in my own Church to make turn it into a sect, or an exclusive club, where everyone who does not subscribe to their narrow outlook is sent to Coventry. Unity in diversity was the motto of Vatican II. LGBT folk are part of this diversity; one can’t just look away or “not see”.

  • http://queeringthechurch.com/ Terence Weldon

    Thanks, Bart. Welcome back.

    I have two points I want to add. The first is that the desire by the oligarchy to keep us invisible, emphasises the vital importance of coming out in church, as far as we are able (for some people, that may not be very far – but make a start by coming out to yourself and to God, and then to a few fellow parishioners, and then more publicly). If Kathy Baldock as a straight ally can face the San Francisco Pride community with the “Jesus Bull’s Eye” on her back for the sake of queer inclusion, the rest of us can surely make the reverse effort.

    I also want to pick up on “the purpose” of Pride. This is often assumed to be to promote a positive image to the wider world, by showing them that we are pretty “normal” (i.e. like them), but that’s not the way I see it. Pride takes its name and heritage from Black Pride, and in the US as in South Africa, Black Pride had nothing at all to do with attempting to mimic the honkies – quite the reverse. Black Pride was a movement that aimed to change the self-image of Black people themselves, and that’s the way I see Gay Pride. The main value is in helping us to improve our own perceptions of our community, in all our diversity. If some elements of that don’t appeal or resonate with us – so what? Others will. 

    And if some of the straight community are repelled – tough shit. I know from South African experience that bigots cannot be won over, no matter what. The genuine moderates will be prepared to live and let live, and are more likely to be influenced by the real people they meet in their daily lives, than by theoretical arguments, or images on TV or in the press. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/felidista Jennifer Hynes

    It is a truism that the church, particularly, ignores the voices of LGBT people, I’ve yet to see otherwise. But the church believes it can pontificate on virtually any subject without actually having any experience of or expertise with the issue in question; marriage and sex being just two.

    As for pride parades I’ve made my feelings known already. As you have pointed out, they have lost their edge and reason for existence in this country at any rate. But others… Eastern Europe is a frightening place to be LGBT, very frightening. And the Middle East? Let’s not go near that hot potato. Israel has tried and succeeded largely, but with very stiff religious opposition. I doubt Pride Parades will happen in most African countries within my lifetime. I could be wrong and frequently am though.

    It is obvious to the educated however that a sexual orientation IS intrinsic to a person’s core identity, and therefore should be stacked up along with ethnicity etc., whereas religion is a CHOICE, a lifestyle choice. I was born white, but I have chosen to listen to God and follow His lead, usually imperfectly. In the same way that religious cry for religious tolerance I cry for queer tolerance, which has the stronger call on justice? The Pope to a large extent chose to be Catholic, I don’t choose who I am attracted to, it just happens however it much it might bother me sometimes. This is what homophobic religious are blind to, the element of choice they exercised in either continuing in the faith of their parents or choosing to follow a faith, choosing to heed a call, rather than ignore it, become an atheist and have an easy life ;)

    • Bart

      I think you make a valid observation with regard to the difference between religion and sexual orientation. I wouldn’t go so far as to say that religion is entirely a choice, and even less put it on the same level as a lifestyle. In many respects the identity created by religion comes before any choices one may make later in life. If I’m born in a Catholic family, raised as a Catholic, etc., by the time I may have the internal freedom to make a choice – to stay or to leave – the Catholic religion  has already largely shaped my identity. That’s why the Catholic Church believes so strongly in the formation of children – getting them early is essential. Secondly, leaving one’s religion “of origin” (that of one’s family, and in many cases, of the society one lives in) isn’t always an easy task. Take a look at what happens, for example, in a Muslim milieu when someone takes steps to leave that religion.
      There is an additional point that needs to be made here. And that’s about the similarity between sexual orientation and religion. I will give an example to explain myself. Jews and Judaism have a long history of being discriminated against, the most notorious event being the Shoah. Jews were persecuted for the simple fact that they were Jews. It made no difference on whether or not they were actually practising their religion. In fact, a number of Jews converted to, amongst other faiths, Catholicism, to avoid persecution, but to little or no avail. There’s also the fact that it was not always evident that they were Jews, in other words, it was possible to be “invisible” about one’s Jewish identity. And yet, they were discriminated against and persecuted. The lessons one can learn from this situation are plenty, and may be applied to the situation obtaining in the LGBT community:
      1. Though a part of one’s identity, it (religion) is not necessarily visible. One can hide one’s religious identity (as, in the above example, one’s Jewish identity) and one’s sexual orientation in ways in which one cannot hide one’s sex or skin colour.
      2. From this it becomes clear that, to a certain extent, choices can or may have to be made. How much of one’s identity (religious identity, and likewise, sexual orientation) can one reveal? I may choose to wear my faith on my sleeve, just as much as I may choose to wear my gayness on my sleeve. I may decide to conceal either or both. Gay persons of faith often find themselves living in this state of conflict between their faith (or rather the religious group they belong to) and their gay identity. At times they have been considered to be traitors by persons from both groups, i.e. traitors to the religious cause as well as to the gay cause.
      3. This brings me to the subject of this post: the attempts by certain religious groups to render LGBT folk invisible, non-existent in terms of their sexual orientation. The thrust of the CDF document on homosexuality was precisely that – to put an artificial wedge between the homosexual orientation (not sinful in itself but … but …) and homosexual acts (definitely evil). We’re supposed to keep mum about our orientation, and definitely not act upon it, because we’re supposed to have a choice – or so the Church thinks. Any and every attempt by the LGBT community to gain rights that are already available to others, and thereby going mainstream (read: living a normal life), is lambasted by the right-wing guard within the Church, and outside it.
      4. I would like to think that, at their core, Pride Parades are a combination of (i) the sheer euphoria of coming out of the closet, and (ii) a cock a snoot at the bigots (see Terry’s comment above) who react to any attempt by gay persons to disclose their gay identity.

      • Mario

        “If I’m born in a Catholic family, raised as a Catholic, etc., by the time I may have the internal freedom to make a choice – to stay or to leave – the Catholic religion  has already largely shaped my identity.”
        I was born Catholic.  I was definitely influence and shaped, especially considering that I went to a convent school and choose to become a nun (except, I knew I was meant to be a priest, but settled because….)!  However, it did not stop me from stepping away from EVERYTHING familiar. For over 20 years, I delved into every religion including atheism.  When I was young, I found I was biologically different (my mother took DES) and never expected to have babies.  I became ultra femme and had material possessions that rivaled any professional Drag Queen and looked like it too. I owned my own business for 11 years. I became a single mom of a disabled son.  I put myself through college and worked in medicine. I left that to live in a commune for a while.  During those 20 years, I lot all my belongings twice. I became homeless for short time. I had a personal break through and came out… mostly to myself and lived as a man for two years and grew out my beard that I have had since I was 13!  I worked in long term care for 10 years.  I got scared became Buddhist, a pagan and went back to being living as a woman.  I got married. I inherited 6 more kids.  

        Then at the age of 46 decided I need to transition to save my life from going down the toilet. It was the best thing I EVER did besides marrying my husband.  I am at peace with who I am and as a result I am at peace with all of you out there and at peace with God.  My husband chronicled my transition.  I am not the same person he married and yet who I am at the core never changed.  I am a better person than I ever was as a woman.  And I returned to the Catholic faith (albeit the Old, Liberal, Ecumenical side of things).  This time, I freely chose to be Catholic not because it is my identity because Mass and the Eucharistic resonates to my very core and fulfills me.  I am who Christ says I am, who I say I am. 

        Culture and subcultures can drown anyone and completely consume individuality but no one is stuck there unless they choose to be.
        I am not sure if I misunderstood what you were trying to say…but it was just my response to the sentence and I wanted that to share it! Thanks for hearing me,Mario

        • Bart

          I don’t think you misunderstood me. You made a journey that took you to a number of stages. There wasn’t just a search for God, but also a search for meaning/truth, and if I’m understanding you correctly, a search for a reply to the question “Who am I?” Judging by the few points you have made here, I must admit: you must have a fascinating story to share. That is, should you wish to do so. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that spiritual journeying goes hand in hand with the journey towards the integration of one’s sexuality.

  • Advocatus Diaboli

    I would argue that all identity is a choice. In my 20th Century European Culture and Identity course we discussed the nature of identity. One example that we examined was the biography of a writer from some English holding in the Caribbean (I do not remember where exactly). His whole life he had been taught that he was British (by his parents, his culture, and the school system), so when he was old enough, he moved to England to be a writer. When he arrived, he was totally disoriented because nothing was as he imagined it. He identified as English yet the people of England did not speak the same as he did, did not have the same attitudes as he did, and so on and so forth (I’m trying to keep it short). He then found himself in a sort of life crisis. Should he adapt and become ‘mainland English’ to further his career goals, should he start to identify himself as Caribbean (where he was born and raised), or should he build an identity around his Indian/Pakistani ethnic heritage where his parents were born? All identities are chosen. Some are created by nature of life experiences, but you can choose to identify as someone or something else. What does it mean to ‘identify’ with white people? It means that you feel that the cultural traits of ‘white people’ (whatever they may be) are something that ‘fits’ you. In the African-American community, when a African-American seems to identify more with ‘white culture’ than ‘black culture’, they sometimes refer to that person as being an ‘Oreo’ because they “look black but are really white on the inside” (I am not making this up, nor being offensive, I am merely reporting facts). Gay is also a chosen identity. Having a homosexual orientation is not the same thing as identifying as Gay. If you choose to identify as Gay, then you have chosen your sexuality to be the primary definition of your person; but not all homosexual people who choose to accept their sexual orientation do chose their sexuality to be their primary definition (and those people are often looked down upon by those who do choose their sexuality to be their primary identification factor). You can have multiple identities too, such as “I am gay, catholic, and Japanese”. Interestingly enough, in my Approaches to the Study of Religion class, that there are many people who believe that you cannot be a Christian and be truly Japanese at the same time; we read multiple stories of such cases, including one where a son essentially disowned his mother for abandoning her Japanese identity by converting to Christianity. Such people feel that the traditional world-view of the Japanese culture and religion are drastically altered by belief in such foreign concepts as Christianity; this view makes people choose to identify as Christian or identify as Japanese, because the two are not seen to be compatible. It is no different with animals  (we are just overgrown animals anyways), such as a new born animal mistaking a female of another species to be its mother; and if it is accepted, it will grow up behaving as another species because it identifies as an animal that it is not.
         Obviously, you can be shaped by identities that you did not choose, such as the culture and religion that you were born into, however, you can choose to change those if you wish. Ill pose a question that my 20C European Identity Professor asked the large number of European Exchange students  in the class: “Would you call yourself a European?” They immediately and unanimously said ‘Yes’. “Ok then, what does it mean to be European?” They all had clearly never thought much about it before, and when they started answering, the unity that they showed in their identification as Europeans quickly disintegrated as they began arguing over what they thought qualified as a European; some said that being European means that you were born in Europe, some said that it means that you agree with European socio-political values, some said that you cannot truly identify as European while also identifying as a radical muslim, and so on. The “definitions” of the European “identity” were just as numerous as the number of exchange students. They started arguing even more with each other when my professor asked what role the European Union played in European Identity. After the question “Do you identify first as European, or first as French, German, Italian, etc; which is more important and why?”, was posed, the argument got out of hand and my professor had to end the discussion. His point was that all identifies are actively or passively chosen; they are constructs of the psyche, and therefore just because two people share a similar ‘trait(s)’ does not mean that they are going to choose the same identities, nor does it mean that if they do choose the same identity that they will have the same definition of what that identity means.
    Make of that what you will.

    • Bart

      Perhaps we’re using the same word in different ways but I find it hard to agree with you that all identity is a choice. There are certain aspects of one’s identity that are pre-determined to a certain extent, such as one’s sex, skin colour, and ethnicity. True, one can change one’s sex – and that’s why we need to come to a greater understanding of what this fundamental change implies – and we can even do a Michael Jackson and change our skin colour, but even here, the choices are made at a later stage.

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